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Minutes pdf icon PDF 125 KB


    The Minutes were approved, subject to the following amendments:


    Page 3 of the minutes, should refer to Sir David Sloman.


    Page 9 should read ‘North Central London (NCL) CCGs.’


    Matter arising from the previous meeting:


    ·         The committee had been awaiting an update on the Diabetic Alerting System mentioned in the Quality Accounts (2016-17) of the Royal Free London NHS Foundation Trust. Dr Mike Greenberg (Medical Director, Barnet Hospital) explained that this was known as the STREAMS system and that discussion surrounding the technology had taken place, but the system had yet to be rolled out. Dr Greenberg said other work around diabetes was being conducted. The Chairman asked that an update on the work being done surrounding diabetes be brought to the February meeting for the Committee to scrutinise.

    ·         The Care Closer to Home Integrated Networks (CHINS) information had been received. The governance Officer would email this information round to Members of the Committee.
    Action: Governance Officer 


    ·         The Chairman updated the Committee on the planning application in relation to Barnet Hospital parking. The Chairman read out a response from Barnet planning department which said ‘The Royal Free had sought pre-application advice from Barnet planning department to redevelop the Barnet Hospital site with additional hospital facilities and some residential development on some of the existing car park land. The plans incorporated a multi-level car park which would consolidate all of the existing car parking on the site along with additional car parking to service all the needs of the additional hospital facilities and the proposed residential accommodation.


    The outline pre-application envisaged approximately 1100 parking spaces dedicated to the hospital along with approximately 400 parking spaces for the proposed residential accommodation. This number may increase or decrease subject to full assessment. Spaces would be mostly accommodated within the aforementioned multi-level car park with some limited ground level parking also proposed.


    The Royal Free are awaiting the necessary board approvals to go forward with the proposals and it is currently expected that a planning application would be submitted in Spring 2019 following some public consultation on the plans in early 2019.’
    Dr Steve Shaw (CEO, Barnet Hospital) had been invited to attend the November meeting to further discuss the issues.
    Action: Dr Shaw


    ·         Barnet CCG had been asked to bring a report to a future meeting on the GP Workload Collection Tool.  NHS Digital is leading on the development of the GP Workforce Collection tool.  The timeline for rolling out the new tool is now the first quarter of 2019.

          Action: Barnet CCG


    ·         A Member also asked that a report on the health provision plans for Cricklewood, NW2 and the impact of Brent Cross South be brought to the Committee.  The CCG has a Strategic Oversight Group which oversees all Primary Care Estates projects in Barnet.  The CCG agreed to bring a report back to the HOSC in the New Year.
    Action: Barnet CCG


    ·         Ms Kay Matthews (Chief Operating Officer, Barnet CCG) was asked to provide the void costs for Finchley Memorial  ...  view the full minutes text for item 1.


Absence of Members


    Apologies were received from Councillor Paul Edwards.  Councillor Kath McGuirk substituted for him.



Declaration of Members' Interests



    Agenda Item(s)


    Councillor Cooke


    Non-Pecuniary interest by virtue of his daughter being employed by UCLH.



Report of the Monitoring Officer




Public Questions and Comments (If any)




Members' Items (If Any)




Minutes of the North Central Sector London Joint Health Overview and Scrutiny Committee pdf icon PDF 213 KB

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    The Chairman informed the Committee that Will Huxter (Director of Strategy, NCL CCGs) had been invited to the next meeting to provide an update on the STP.



Barnet Breastfeeding Peer Support Service pdf icon PDF 252 KB

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    The Chairman invited the following to the table:


    ·         Ms Clare Slater-Robbins – Senior CYP Commissioner, Joint Commissioning Unit LBB

    ·         Ms Audrey Adamah – CBU Lead, Central London Community Healthcare Trust NHS Trust

    Ms Slater-Robbins introduced the Breastfeeding Peer Support Service report including user feedback. She explained the service had been commissioned until April 2020 on a contract extension. Ms Adamah told the Committee there was currently a mix of paid and volunteer support workers, with currently five volunteers and two paid peer support workers. However, recruitment and training was taking place with the hope of having fully recruited by January 2019.


    Ms Slater-Robbins explained that best practice in other areas, with similar demographics, had been considered when developing the new service model and this had resulted in a more joined up approach with professionals and engagement with schools and children centres. She said they were looking to find spaces within town centres that could be used to encourage mums to feel more comfortable Breastfeeding in public areas. Feedback on the model had so far been positive; the home visiting aspect had been particularly praised.


    The Committee commented that it was pleased to see user involvement in the service model. The Committee queried when the new birth data would be available and were told this was anticipated to be early June.


    The Committee enquired as to how professionals giving breast feeding advice were trained and whether this was consistent across all centres and staff. Ms Slater-Robbins explained that volunteers were trained on the UNICEF accreditation at Level 2, which is an internationally recognised course and therefore advice from anyone trained through this course should be consistent. She said it was difficult to ensure everyone, including nurses, had been on this training as they are often provided training by their own co-ordinator. There was also a complexity around ensuring there is a consistent message due to cultural differences. Ms Slater-Robbins explained the solution did not sit within one Service alone and that social media was helping change the attitude towards breast feeding.


    Ms Slater-Robbins said that there would be no major update on the service for a while, but the Committee would be updated on the co-design work and any developments with the contract later next year. The focus would continue to be on spreading the Service’s support reach, joined up working with the Early Years System and ensuring consistency of advice on breastfeeding from all professionals.


    The Chairman asked how the model would become linked with family hubs. Ms Slater-Robbins explained that Health Services had been aligned with family locality hubs and that volunteers would be recruited and assigned to these areas. She said this added advice capacity into the service as it reduced taking up health visitor time when advice on breastfeeding could be sought via peer support instead.


    The Committee thanked the officers for the positive report and commented on how much work had gone into it.


    RESOLVED that the Committee noted the report.



Update on Integration Barnet CCG pdf icon PDF 170 KB

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    The Chairman invited the following to the table:


    ·         Ms Ruth Donaldson – Director of Commissioning, Barnet CCG

    ·         Ms Kay Matthews - Chief Operating Officer, Barnet CCG

    ·         Dr Jeff Lake – Consultant in Public Health, London Borough of Barnet

    Ms Donaldson explained that the Clinical Commissioning Group was currently in the process of developing two key programmes to support integration locally. These programmes were the development of new approaches to commissioning which support a move toward commissioning on outcomes and the implementation of Care and Health Integrated Networks (CHINS), as the place based delivery model for services. Commissioning on outcomes and integrating where appropriate ensures that there is a greater focus on prevention, and aims to remove the perverse incentives that are currently in place in acute and community contracts.


    The Committee queried the cost of implementing these changes. Ms Donaldson said that the key driver in the integration programme was to improve the quality of services that patients receive and to reduce fragmentation. There may also be financial rewards if a focus on prevention and self care results in fewer emergency admissions to hospital.


    The Committee acknowledged the importance of getting Primary Care right and the cost benefit attached to this. Ms Djuretic said the aim was to mobilise the whole system and ensure a fully integrated approach. Although there were financial constraints, finding a way to work together on joint delivery was important in order to improve patient experience and both efficiency and value from the Health Care system. Dr Lake said fragmentation needed to be tackled and integrated networks was a way to do this, allowing greater co-ordination and continuation of care, particularly for elderly patients who frequently have chronic conditions. He said there was a need for both Individual and community resilience, with more of an emphasis on how people are involved in their own care. He felt that Members also had a role in driving innovation in their areas.


    The Committee asked what risk management process had been followed and had learning from other areas been sought. Ms Donaldson said learning from successful areas such as Manchester and Surrey had been done. CHINS allowed early interventions to be identified and the ability to link this into the wider community and acute services.


    The Committee asked what front-line services for young people’s mental health were available.  Ms Donaldson said that a resilient schools programme was available. Ms Djuretic said that 16 schools had signed up and a programme of activities had been held to support parents, teachers and children which included mental health training. Ms Djuretic said there was a digital site available called Kooth, which provides online peer support and counselling. She said the mental health pathway for young people sits within Public Health and is run by the Local Authority.


    Ms Matthews explained that five Care and Health Integrated Networks were now up and running and the plan was to have six integrated programmes across Barnet. She said locally commissioned services had been introduced to  ...  view the full minutes text for item 9.


Winter Pressures Planning 2018/19 pdf icon PDF 252 KB

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    The Chairman invited the following to the table:


    ·         Ms Kay Matthews - Chief Operating Officer, Barnet CCG

    ·         Dr Mike Greenberg - Medical Director of Barnet Hospital


    Dr Greenberg updated the Committee regarding the winter planning requirements for the Royal Free London NHS Foundation Trust. Dr Greenberg said that compared with other hospitals, it had been a good winter so far. He explained that discharge of patients had been efficient. There was also a communications plan in place which was helping to reduce attendances or redirect patients away from A&E if their needs could be managed by a GP. An escalation framework had been reviewed and amended and a plan had been put in place for discharge arrangements from hospital either home or to another care setting.


    Ms Matthews said that one of the key focuses was ensuring patients and staff understood the available alternatives to A&E and staff knew where to refer patients. She said better communication and information for the public in this area was required as well as ensuring front-line provider staff were aware of what urgent and community services are available in Barnet.


    Dr Greenberg explained that Barnet Hospital was meeting the NHS national improvement target for ambulance handovers, with 30 minutes or less time being achieved. He said internal processes had led to the improvement in ambulance handover times and the ‘Fit to Sit’ scheme had helped with meeting this target. This in turn had improved patient flow within the hospital and freed up beds for patients requiring more urgent treatment. Dr Greenberg said waiting times for patients in the hospital had also been reduced.


    Ms Matthews said that a huge amount of work had been done at Barnet Hospital since last year and the improvements were really good. Dr Greenberg said using improvement methodology had made a big impact and that any patients staying in hospital for more than seven days were regularly reviewed to investigate what was preventing their discharge. Ms Matthews said they were working with the Local Authority on discharging patients on time and that 48,000 more GP appointments had been made available which was having a positive impact.


    The Committee queried the impact on EU workers in the Health Services and Adult Social Care work force. Ms Johnson said transformation boards were monitoring the situation and they were looking at sharing the work force and working with providers across many community organisations. Dr Greenberg said the risk had been recognised and work towards recruitment and retention groups was ongoing. He said research was being conducted to establish what makes staff enjoy their work and build on this to retain employees. Dr Greenberg said that some success in areas had been seen at the Royal Free after the introduction of a coffee room for staff.


    RESOLVED that the Committee noted the report.



Winter communications in Barnet pdf icon PDF 269 KB


    The Chairman invited the following to the table:


    ·         Dr Jeff Lake – Consultant in Public Health, London Borough of Barnet

    Dr Lake told the committee that the national NHS campaign had been split into various phases which would be implemented locally. He explained that coordinated communications would focus on promoting flu immunisations in October and November followed by self-care and service advice from December to March. He said this would include advice in Barnet First, posters at bus shelters around the Borough and targeted social media. These campaigns would be a collaboration between the CCG and the Local Authority. The bus shelter graphics were to be agreed and printed soon so that the advertisements could be put up in bus shelters in early November.


    The Committee suggested that literature on self-care and service advice could also be placed in shelters for the homeless, supermarkets and on GP noticeboards to ensure the message was passed to as many people in the borough as possible. Dr Lake confirmed that GP noticeboards were already on the list but he thanked the Committee for the other suggestions and would take these back to the team. The Committee also suggested infographics rather than text are used where possible to ensure those not fluent in English could understand the messages. Dr Djuretic confirmed that the CCG were working with the communications department to ensure the messages going out were clear and to seek guidance on the best ways of doing this.


    The Committee suggested that a longer-term plan could incorporate the use of an App which could direct people to the nearest centre for care. Dr Djuretic said that currently there was no proposal to develop an App; however, Facebook could possibly be used in the future to target specific areas with relevant messages. She said that the results of the campaign would be evaluated and shared with the Committee.


    Dr Lake said that NHS England have created a website called ‘One You’ which is aimed at promoting self-care. The website address is said that in future there was an opportunity for an App through this development.


    RESOLVED that the Committee noted the report.




    The Chairman invited to the table:


    ·         Councillor Caroline Stock – Chairman of the Health and Wellbeing Board, London Borough of Barnet.

    Councillor Stock informed the Committee that a report on homelessness would be coming to the next Health and Wellbeing Board (HWBB) meeting. The report would outline what could be done to prevent people getting to the stage where they become homeless.


    Councillor Stock also said that diabetes prevention and awareness was still a priority, with 23 people having been diagnosed with diabetes at the Brent Cross Diabetes Awareness Week event who were previously completely unaware they had the disease. Another 21 people were diagnosed as pre-diabetic and were offered advice on how to prevent this escalating to full diabetes. She said the high numbers reflected the obesity issues within  ...  view the full minutes text for item 11.


Health Overview and Scrutiny Forward Work Programme pdf icon PDF 85 KB


    The Chairman informed the Committee that Will Huxter (Director of Strategy, NCL CCGs) had been invited to the next meeting to provide an update on the North Central London’s Sustainability and Transformation Partnership (STP) programme and that Dr Shaw had confirmed his attendance to discuss winter pressures.


    The Chairman suggested, as there was no December HOSC meeting this year when the Committee would usually have a half-year review of the Quality Accounts, that the Governance Officer be asked to contact the Royal Free London NHS Foundation Trust, CLCH NHS Trust and the North London Hospice and ask them to address the concerns that the Committee had raised at the HOSC meeting on 24 May 2018 regarding their 2017/18 Quality Accounts. Responses from these three Organisations would then be circulated to the members.
    Action: Governance Officer



Any Other Items that the Chairman Decides are Urgent




    The meeting ended at 21.39.