Agenda and draft minutes

Venue: BEST hub, Lanacre Avenue, Grahame Park, Colindale, London NW9 5FN

Contact: School Funding Team  Email: schoolfunding@barnet.gov.uk

Note: Replaces meeting of 29th September 

Items
No. Item

1.

Welcome to new members

Minutes:

VW welcomed Jenny Keable from the LBB School Funding team who was attending the Forum for the first time.

 

2.

Apologies

Minutes:

Apologies were received from Tony Vourou, Matthew Glenn, Lesley Ludlow, Keith Nason, Jo Kelly and Chris Munday

Post-meeting apologies were received from Perina Holness

 

3.

Declarations of Interest

Minutes:

None.

 

4.

Minutes of Previous meeting pdf icon PDF 114 KB

Minutes:

Agreed as a true and accurate record of the last meeting.

5.

Matters arising

Minutes:

JD asked how the Apprenticeship Levy will affect schools.  IH replied that most individual schools and academies would not be charged as they are too small.  Academy chains are likely to have to pay the levy.  The area of uncertainty is the community schools which may be counted as part of the council for the purposes of the levy.  Hopefully more information will be received by the December Schools Forum meeting. 

 

VW said that Wave 11 of new free schools has been announced with three new schools in Barnet.  These will be the Saracens High School, Compton Cricklewood and the Windmill all-through special school for pupils with autism.  Applications for the next wave have just closed.  On current projections, Barnet’s basic need for places has now been met and any further free schools would be responding to parental choice rather than lack of places, and Barnet would be likely to oppose surplus places being created.

6.

Election of Chair and Vice-Chair

Minutes:

This item was deferred as the meeting was not quorate.

 

7.

Membership Review and Vacancies pdf icon PDF 45 KB

Minutes:

The Schools Forum now has 7 vacancies and a recruitment drive is needed to replace members who have left.  EP pointed out that there are also a number of members whose term of office has come to an end.  EP and SV are happy to stand for another term.

 

NT is no longer a governor at Wessex Gardens but is on the Childs Hill governing body and so will remain a member representing community primary schools.

 

8.

Items for Information pdf icon PDF 85 KB

a)    2015/16 Budget Monitoring – Final Outturn

b)    School Balances at 31 March 2016

c)    2016/17 Budget Monitoring

 

Minutes:

8a

2015/16 Schools Budget Final Outturn – Catherine Peters

CP introduced the item and drew attention to the financial report circulated.

SH asked about NOAM – VW said that this independent school would like to become voluntary aided.  While the school has purchased land, they are still fund raising to start building the new school without which they cannot join the LA.  VW will contact them to find out their current plans.

 

EP asked what is happening with 2 year old provision.  DD admitted that Barnet is not moving towards the target take-up as fast as expected or as fast as some other LAs.  Take-up varies from 55-60% of target.  JD asked whether this was due to the funding being too low, and SV added that at her setting they found that the families often needed as much support as the child.  She suggested that underspends on two year olds could be used for family support programmes.  DD said funding might be an issue, but also the areas of highest demands are where there are least places.  VW added that schools are struggling to provide places for Reception children and so are not able to make space for two year olds as well.  Many London authorities have the same problem.

 

GK arrived during this item and took over the meeting.

 

8b        School Balances at 31 March 2016 – Nick Adams

NA introduced the paper and associated table.  Balances have fallen a little overall but there is wide variation and no obvious pattern.  While some schools have large balances others have needed support with redundancy costs and licensed deficits.  St Michaels has now cleared their deficit.

 

A discussion followed about how schools might be encouraged to use balances perhaps through a clawback mechanism.  GK said schools were naturally being cautious in these uncertain times and EP echoed this.  NA and IH also admitted that when investigations had been done in the past, schools have said they were saving for projects which did not  always materialise.  However without any kind of sanction there was little the LA could do.  IH felt the best approach was for Learning Network Inspectors to link balances to school achievement, and for schools to be expected to use available resources to rectify low achievement.  NA said energies had been put into preventing schools falling into deficit rather than challenging schools with surpluses.  VW said that a recent review of London authorities showed that in the main, there are perhaps surprisingly few schools in deficit.

 

8c        2016/17 Schools Budget – Q1 budget monitoring

CP presented the paper and associated table.  The projected underspend at Quarter 1 (Apr-Jun 2016) has now become a projected overspend due to a reduction in early years income and the rising cost of high needs placements for Post 16 students.

 

JD queried where the £2.8m carried forward from 2015/16 was shown in the 2016/17 budget.  CP explained that underspends are put in a reserve and only the amount needed to balance the 2016/17 budget  ...  view the full minutes text for item 8.

9.

Towards a National Funding Formula pdf icon PDF 198 KB

a)    Consultations and announcements

 

Members are asked to note Barnet’s responses to previous consultations and be aware of the timeline of future announcements relating to the Dedicated Schools Grant and School Funding.

 

b)    Draft 17/18 budget including school funding formula

 

This report is to advise members of expected budget pressures in preparing the 2017/18 budget. A balanced budget projection will be presented to Schools Forum at the next meeting in December.

 

c)    APT modelling

 

We are asking members to confirm their approval for amending the funding formula rates used in the APT to reflect the new IDACI bands whilst ensuring as little turbulence to schools as possible.

 

d)    Barnet EY consultation

Minutes:

 

 

 

 

9a

This section replaces the items for decision, in order to give members a broad overview of the progress of government funding reforms which have been disrupted and delayed by the change of ministers following the European Referendum. 

 

Consultations and announcements

IH introduced the table tracking the various government announcements and consultations since the beginning of 2016.  Government plans have been put back a year with the National Funding Formula now scheduled for April 2018.

 

NT asked about the Central Block originally proposed by the DfE.  CB said that LAs were required to submit a ‘baseline’ statement showing their expenditure budget for 2016/17 on the four blocks.  The expectation was that these would become ringfenced when the national funding formula was introduced.  The central block will not now be introduced in 2017 and blocks will not be ringfenced – although the Schools Forum must be told if there is a plan to use one block for another purpose so they can challenge the proposal if necessary.

 

CB added that none of the funding announcements made so far have been negative for Barnet and indeed there will be a large increase in the early years block which will be passed on to providers.

 

9b

 

2017/18 DSG Projections and Pressures

IH introduced the item.  SH asked for clarification about EHCPs for Post 16 students.  IH said the changes were that a) high needs students in college must now have an EHCP and b) Post 19 students continue to have an EHCP until they are 25.

 

SH also asked about the consultation on the LA funding free schools in the first year of opening.  CB explained that LA funding is based on lagged numbers and funding for additional pupils is therefore not received until the following year.  VW added that where new free schools are set up to meet basic need, it is fair that Barnet should pay from the start, but it could be a drain on the whole school community if new free schools were opened to meet parental preference only.

 

DJ asked what calls there have been on contingencies so far.  CP said more information would be provided at the next meeting.

 

9c

APT modelling

CP introduced the paper which described the technical changes the EFA are making in the wake of the problems caused by the updated IDACI index.  In December, the Schools Forum will be presented with options for adjusting the funding formula using the EFA’s new IDACI bands, with the overall aim of avoiding turbulence for schools.

 

9c

Early years Consultations

IH introduced the paper explaining that LAs must consult on amendments to their local early years formulae before the outcome of the government consultation is known.  Barnet’s consultation with all providers will be launched shortly so that results will be known in time to set the budget for 2017/18.  DD added that the consultation has been kept as simple as possible to ensure as many providers as possible respond.  She also clarified the figure of  ...  view the full minutes text for item 9.

10.

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Minutes:

1.    Welcome to new members

 

2.    Apologies for absence

 

3.    Declarations of interest

 

4.    Election of Chair and Vice Chair

 

5.    Minutes of previous meeting

 

6.    Matters arising

 

7.    Items for information

·         2016/17 Budget budget monitoring

 

8.    Towards a National Funding Formula- including

·         Results of Consultations

·         2017/18 Schools budget

·         Reserve for previous year underspends

·         De-delegation by maintained schools

·         School funding formula for 2017/18

·         Changes to the Scheme for Financing Schools

 

9.    Draft agenda for next meeting – February 2016

 

10. Any other business

 

11.

Dates of Future Meetings pdf icon PDF 31 KB

Minutes:

8th December 2016             

February 2017 (tba)

11th May 2017 (provisional)

6th July 2017 (provisional) 

 

12.

Any Other Business

Minutes:

There being no other business, GK closed the meeting by thanking everyone for attending.  The meeting closed at 5.30pm